Showing posts with label welfare. Show all posts
Showing posts with label welfare. Show all posts

Thursday, May 22, 2014

Welcome to Conservatism Whoopi Goldberg

Not that she realizes she did this, but Ms. Goldberg made the conservative talking point about the welfare system during a discussion with Dr. Ben Carson on The View yesterday.  
"As a former welfare mother, very few people want to be on welfare. Very few want to walk with their kids and take food stamps. Most people would rather work. I don't feel bad about being a welfare mother because I contribute as an American - that's what we do. And because the welfare system is so bizarre, you can't work, they don't allow you to work because they take the money from you. So if we fix the system so that it doesn't hurt the people, maybe it'll get better."
How long have conservatives been saying this?  For decades that is how long.  Now I will concede the point that some on the right disparage people who take from entitlement programs.  I am not among them.  I go after the system, not the people themselves.  The system is broken.  It isn't designed to help people.  It entraps them therefore keeping them in poverty.  

As long as the system stays the way it is currently set up we will continue to have the same problems plaguing it.  For instance the food stamps program is currently set up so that if you make even one dollar above the max amount you lose everything.  That tells people that taking a better job that pays $100 more per month is actually going to cost you everything you get in food stamps.  If your food bill is over that amount, which the prices of groceries today being what they are, you can't afford to buy food.  

The only true answer to help people find their way off entitlement programs is to pro-rate the benefits.  This way a person who can slowly move their way up the ladder in the workforce isn't afraid of taking that better paying position. Today they are.  

On this Whoppi and I agree.  The problem is most liberals say you are dissing the poor when you talk about these things.  You are trying to starve poor children.  You hate minorities.  Or whatever other insult they will hurl at you that particular day.  I am not against all entitlement programs.  I think safety nets are necessary when people hit hard times.  What I don't like is a system that doesn't give you a way out once you hit those hard times.  

I believe that people should be able to find better jobs without the fear of homelessness or lack of food.  But the current system isn't designed to do that.  

I doubt that Ms. Goldberg realizes that she has a conservative view point on the welfare system, but she does.  Welcome to the right Whoopi.   I know you don't think you belong here, but your view point is more conservative than you think.  

Friday, April 25, 2014

Yeah About Cliven Bundy's Feelings on Welfare

I have always felt there is a danger into turning a person you have never met into a folk hero.  Cliven Bundy being exhibit A of that belief.  To start this off, I want to say very clearly that the government overreach and the excessive use of force used by the BLM should be the main issue and anyone with a brain should be scared that our government is willing to do such a thing to a private citizen for a measly million dollars.  In terms of our government spending a million dollars in fees is nothing in the grand scheme of things.  That said, that doesn't make Mr. Bundy a hero.  He is standing by what he believes is right.  Which is something that every person should do.  

Instead of having a knee jerk reaction to the story that was unfolding in Nevada, we should have taken a step back and talked about the government overreach instead of the personalities involved.  For all we know Mr. Bundy is a serial killer who has bodies buried all over his ranch.  We don't know.  We have no way of knowing because the man is a virtual stranger.  

Now, I do believe that somewhere along the line people knew that Bundy was a good person to go after because of his views and personality he could easily be discredited.  The fact is that Bundy has no idea to talk to the gotcha media.  There is no reason in the world for him to be talking about welfare, it has nothing to do with the issues at hand.  The only thing we should be hearing about is grazing fees, grazing rights, and the land that is owned by the federal government.  A very excessive amount out in the western part of the country.  What are they doing with all that land?  Is it constitutional for them to own that much?  Do the states involved want to take the land back and the federal government refusing to cede the land to them?  Those are real questions that all Americans should have answered.  Instead we are now talking about cotton picking, "negroes", and welfare recipients.  

I have always felt that slavery and Nazi comparisons are ludicrous.  We cannot compare the poverty we have in this country today to what happened during slavery or what happened to the Jews during World War II under Hitler.  

His comments:
“I want to tell you one more thing I know about the Negro,” he said. recalled driving past a public-housing project in North Las Vegas, “and in front of that government house the door was usually open and the older people and the kids — and there is always at least a half a dozen people sitting on the porch — they didn’t have nothing to do. They didn’t have nothing for their kids to do. They didn’t have nothing for their young girls to do.

“And because they were basically on government subsidy, so now what do they do?” he asked. “They abort their young children, they put their young men in jail, because they never learned how to pick cotton. And I’ve often wondered, are they better off as slaves, picking cotton and having a family life and doing things, or are they better off under government subsidy? They didn’t get no more freedom. They got less freedom.”
Yes, I am offended by these comments.  This shows a complete and utter lack of historical knowledge of what slavery was.  Does he believe that the "negro" should be whipped into submission as often happened during slavery?  Should the women be raped as again often happened during times of slavery?  
What about the large number of whites and Hispanics that collect welfare?  Should they learn how to pick cotton too?  After all aren't they having less freedom as well?  
As expected the people on the left exploded and started calling the word raaaaacist.  Now, these statements alone don't mean that Bundy is a racist.  A racist is a person who thinks that they are inherently better than others due to skin color.  Stereotyping isn't a racist make, it may be stupid and ignorant, but not racist.  Most people are guilty of stereotyping.  Lets take a look at this comment:
“As a general rule, individuals will sell out the interests of their groups in return for personal benefit…It isn’t just a black thing. Jews collaborated with the Nazis during World War II, helping them to round up their own people in the hopes they’d be the last to go.”
This is from an article that appeared in the Chicago Sun Times written about the black republican candidate for Governor.  This article was retweeted by Gov. Quinn, not just once but several times, out to his twitter followers.  Does he approve of that statement?  Apparently not after some Jewish groups complained, his twitter account deleted the retweets.  Erasing away the evidence, or attempting to in any event.  Apparently he approves of the notion that black people can only think in one way or they are a traitor to their race.  It isn't possible that a person who happens to be black believes in small and limited government.  Nope, not even one across this country.  They are only about the profit motive or possibly some Sambo who is trying to make nice with white republicans so they will like them.  It has never been explained why they would care if white republicans liked them or not if they truly believed that the only way to solve the problems of the black community is more government intervention.  After all it has worked so well in places like Detroit and the south side of Chicago.  But that matters none.  Traitors one and all, there are no other options for the black man.  

We are bombarded in this country by politicians and politics pundits with comparisons to Nazi's and slavery.  The Nazi's murdered six million people by putting them into gas chambers and ovens.  There is nothing even remotely close to happening like that in this country.  Slavery was inhumane and brutal.  It treated a group of people as nothing more than a piece of property to be done with as the "owner" pleased with zero regard to their humanity.  They were somehow less than human and as such could be whipped, beaten, and raped at the whim of the slave owner and his employees.  There is nothing about our welfare system that compares to that.  

Make no mistake, I am no fan of the  welfare system as it is currently set up.  I do believe as Bundy does that it can foster dependency and create more problems than it solves.  But, that isn't slavery.  Slaves had no options.  Slaves couldn't find a better job, get more education, go to trade school to better themselves.  Welfare recipients can do these things.  We can save the argument if they do them for another time, but the reality is that the options are there if they are willing to take advantage of them.  

I think it is well past time that both sides of the political aisle stop with the slavery and Nazi comparisons.  They are over the top, unwarranted, and simply a way to garner an emotional reaction that stops critical thinking on very important issues.  It stops speech.  That is what these comparisons are designed to do, regardless of your motivation behind them.  

My advice to Mr. Bundy is to stop talking to the media until he hires a seasoned PR person who knows how to handle the gotcha media.  He is in no way equipped to handle this on his own.  
Sadly all people now are going to remember is the label of racist.  All the good he did to bring the attention to the important issue of federal land holdings has been all but washed away.  Exactly what The New York Times had in mind. 

It is also time that people stop calling a perfect stranger a hero until you know a little something about their character.  Both extremes of the political aisle are far too willing to make a perfect stranger into the poster boy/girl for a cause they care about.  It has backfired over and over again as history shows.  We would all be better off to take a step back, look at the facts, research things on our own, and not have a knee jerk emotional reaction about a person who will eventually have human failings, because we all do.  

Stick to the issues and don't get sidetracked.  Bundy has done exactly that and what ends up being lost are the issues of excessive government force, land ownership, and the rights of the states.  Now we all lose.  Now we, as a nation, won't ask the critical question of why the feds thought it was necessary to send in helicopters and snipers over a financial dispute that could have been handled through a lien on his property.  If they believe that they are right in their fees, it could have been handled in a more civilized manner.  It could have been, but it wasn't.  Now the why of that will likely never get answered.  

Mr. Bundy keep your opinions about welfare to yourself.  No one cares about them, unless they are trying to discredit you and labeled you a racist.  You are entitled to your opinion, but that doesn't mean you need to share it with the world.  

Thursday, December 6, 2012

Quote of the Day - Paul Ryan Edition Part 3


 ”Just last year, total federal and state spending on means-tested programs came to over one trillion dollars. What does that mean in practical terms? For that amount of money, you could give every single poor American a check for $20,000 – every man, woman and child.”
Congressman Ryan talking about the amount of money we spend as a country on welfare related programs for the poor.  Please don’t tell me that we are helping these people with these programs.  A single mother of three would get $80,000.  That would put her and her family in the position to be self-reliant immediately.
Our “welfare” program is not only a joke, but it is beyond a doubt harmful to the people who are on it as well as to the people who are not and are paying ever-increasing taxes to pay for this monstrosity.

Saturday, July 14, 2012

Quote of the Day - Cleveland.com Commenter on the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy

With all the right wing conspiracy theories floating around the internet and airwaves, no wonder some people are tricked into believing there is some sort of secret fund that will solve all their financial problems.
A comment on the story about the hoax that some saps are falling for that they too can get some Obamacash to pay their bills.


Hmm, right wing conspiracy.


Some headlines:


Number of people claiming federal disability insurance payments is now HIGHER than New York City's entire population of 8.25 million




USDA uses Spanish soap operas to push food stamps among non-citizens, citizens [AUDIO]





Graves Says Obama Is Gutting Welfare Reform


Yes, it sounds like a right wing conspiracy to me too.  After all, we are not creating a environment that people are living off the government more and more everyday.

Saturday, March 17, 2012

Quote(s) of the Day - Welfare Recipients Edition


- “I’m here trying to get some Obama bucks. That‘s what I’m doing, trying to get some Obama money.”  (No such thing as Obama money.  It is people who work for living that give this money.)

- “I want a check.” (Then go get a job.  That is how I have always gotten mine.)

- “Tell me why you like Obama.” — “Because he gives me stuff.”  (Actually, I give you stuff with my tax dollars.)

- “Who you going to vote for?” — “Obama.” — “Why?” — “Because he’s black.” (yet, I am the racist.  I didn't vote for him because he is a marxist.)

- “When was the last time you actually worked?” — “About half a decade”  

- “You’re a perfectly healthy young man, why aren’t you working right now?” — “My background. Once you go to jail it’s hard to get a job.”  (I will admit that a criminal record does make finding a job more difficult, but not impossible.)

- “Why should my tax dollars be going to you?” — “My ancestors came here to help build this place — my ancestors, slaves.”   (Have you ever met a slave?  I don't think so.  It long past time you let this go.  It has nothing to do with your life today.)

- “Do you really want to work, or do you just want to get a free check?” — “I just want to get a free check.”  

Quotes from welfare recipients in New York City given to none other Alexandria Pelosi.  Yes, that Pelosi, Nanny's daughter.  Maybe now Ms. Pelosi, you can sit down with your mother and make her see how dangerous the policies that she has pushed on the American people really are.  

I don't bash all people on welfare.  Some are down and out, some are too ill to work, some truly are just using this as helping hand while they are out of work.  But far too many have made this a way of life, then look at themselves as victims.  The welfare system is broken.  We are not helping people, we are creating an environment of entitlement that is getting harder and harder to break.  

Another sick thing is that she was advised not to run this clip on television by people at HBO.  Heaven forbid we tell people the truth.  Any wonder why I don't get HBO anymore?  

Thursday, January 19, 2012

Finally, Some Truth from Bob Beckel - Liberals Created Dependent Society with Well Meaning Social Programs

Well, bless his heart for finally admitting it.  I have never said that there wasn't a certain amount of sincerity in the creation of these programs, but that doesn't change the fact that overall, they are a failure.  They don't help the people.  It just keeps them in or near poverty.  For instance, the reason that people who have been on food stamps for a long period of time have difficulty getting off is the fact that if you make even $5 more than the very low amount it takes to qualify they cut you off completely.  That $5 extra isn't going to make you able to afford to buy your own food on a permanent basis, but you become disqualified.  So what is the answer?  Don't make that $5.  It keeps people living off the taxpayer's dime instead of giving them a helping hand.  It isn't easy to get out poverty, but it can be done.  The government must stop putting people in the position that welfare programs are the only alternative.  


Tuesday, October 5, 2010

Liberal Logic - Western Center Law and Poverty Center on California's Welfare Fraud

"When people go on assistance, they're going to have the same kind of life situations come up as anyone else. You're going to visit your sick relative. You're going to go to funerals out-of-state. That's what's going on here," says Mike Herald from the Western Center on Law and Poverty.
This is the answer that they come up with when it is shown that welfare money is being withdrawn on cruise ships?  How many funerals have you been to that occur on a cruise?  It seems that California's welfare recipients seem to have a very high level of sick relatives and funerals in Las Vegas as well, a total of $12 million per year.  But don't despair, they are only wasting less than 1%.  What's a measly $69 million?  Why even bother to fix the problem?  The "rich" can afford it.  After all, California is just swimming in budget surpluses. 

Thursday, September 23, 2010

The System Took Advantage of Me - Oh Really? Aunt Zeituni Speaks

If a liberal wants to understand why conservatives have the views that they have about illegal immigrants, this is a good start. 

Her nephew is the most "powerful" man in the world and a multi-millionaire yet my tax dollars pay her bills.  He can afford to give her enough money to find a place a live that is not paid for by hard working Americans that have actually paid into the system.  True liberal logic; why help your family when they live of the dole.  There is a family that didn't get housing because of this woman.  How exactly is this "fair"?  Isn't that what the President says he wants? 




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